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redfawn

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I read this and it scares the shit out of me.

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----- Subject: Fw: A Black Man's View of Obama







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THIS WILL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK, PRAY ABOUT, AND PASS
ON. IF WE DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WE WILL BE PART OF THE PROBLEM

IF THE WRONG PEOPLE ARE PUT IN CONTROL OF THIS COUNTRY. JUST A THOUGHT.



Here is a report about Obama from a
black columnist. He definitely brings a different light to this
newly minted politician.




Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun


It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front running freedom fighter over 70.
The next president of
America will be a First. We don't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender.
Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.
Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.

Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.
Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. but let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial "beauty."
Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.
Next, consider economic policy For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill
Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago . Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on "the rich."
How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise
taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes.
Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have
government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your
paycheck.
Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, "All praise and glory to God!" but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have "hijacked" - hijacked - Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In
Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban - ban - on all handguns in the state These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.
The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of "bringing
America together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs, but right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.
It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts,
let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our
president in a nuclear age during a global civilization
war.


Kind of scary, wouldn't you think---

Remember--God is good, and is in time, on time--every time.

According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with
persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the
prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false
hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy
everything.


Is it OBAMA??

I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it!


If you think I am crazy..I am sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the "unknown" candidate.


 

vixen777

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It has been proven this is just an Internet rumor and most likely planted by the devil.. ohh I mean Hilary herself. I urge everyone to think twice before they believe ANYTHING that is on the net!!
 

CareyG

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LOL I honestly dont like any of the candidates and they all scare the crap outta me!!
 

iataz

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Yep not sure about Obama and Hillary already ran the office so she doesn't get need another term

who is that new guy that just threw his hat into the ring ??
 

lucky639

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Internet Rumours are a way to scare people because more pople read the internet than books or watch tv.
These prophecies have been told time and time again. Only this one has been changed. I read a similar book that was about nostradamus' prophecies and it told that ghangus khans army would arise first and would be a holy war between christians and muslims. As you can tell, by life events. These wars have been going on for many, many years.

Do you really think, a woman or black man will be president? Do you think Bush was elected because he "technically" had more votes? Do you think that anyone who is talking peace, will be president? I would love to see a woman(not necessarily hilary) or a black man (not necessarily obama) president. Our world has changed so much. Wouldn't it be nice for a change in presidency? This is just my opinion. Please don't live life being scared of the inevitable. Everyday, people are killed in car accidents. That scares me, but I don't stop driving.....
 

Seaman63

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According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with
persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the
prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false
hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy
everything.

Is it OBAMA??


Nope...it is George W.! Seriously...a thief, a liar, a torturer, a war criminal and a mass murder. He fit´s best for that job.
 
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kayjay70

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Nope...it is George W.! Seriously...a thief, a liar, a torturer, a war criminal and a mass murder. He fit´s best for that job.

If you're really being serious seaman....THAT'S scary! LOL

"thief??, liar??, a torturer??, war criminal ?? and ? mass murderer ? (pretty radical...) could apply to ANY former president if you WANT it to. Can anyone think of ONE president who has NOT put our military in harms way to get involved in other countries wars and civil wars, lied, raised some taxes?
I'm really confused by your comments on being a thief, torturer and war criminal...so I won't even go there.

jmo

kayjay
 
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retro666

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How could anybody be confused by the statements seaman made??. A thief (stole the election)..A lier.. To numerous to say but..the big one was his massive lies to get approval to attack a nation. A torturer..ever heard of a little place called guantanamo bay. Plus the jail in Irag. He is definitly a war criminal..The war in irag is a crime in itself. He killed many innocent people in that war..thus..a mass murderer. No matter how you want to paint that man..he was and is the worst man to ever lead your United states.
 

CALizzz

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Nope...it is George W.! Seriously...a thief, a liar, a torturer, a war criminal and a mass murder. He fit´s best for that job. And thats just what we'd have with another Repbulican in office- especially John McCain!!

If the American people don't know by now the atrocities commited by Bush and his admin. well, I have a hard time understanding that.

Are we safer now? Hell NO! We are not at war we are involved in an occupation. It's been over SIX years since that man had the nerve to be helecoptered onto the navy carrier with his "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" Banner. And over 4000 American soldiers Killed since then- not to mention INNOCENT Iraqi's.. Do Iraqi Mama's cry different tears when they lose a loved one?? Bush's comment to the whole LIE? We should have been more specific- that carriers mission was accomplished. PA LESE!! It was all a photo opp! Bush never, never flew a plane! Or wore the uniform..

Obama muslim decent?? So what. He is NOT A MUSLIM. Like Vixen says don't believe everything you read on the net. Or anywhere! Question EVERYTHING!!!

Funny or maybe sad.. It takes a German and a Canadian to try and set us straight.

Bush a war criminal, just as Dick Cheney! That man stole the election twice!!

"Short memory must have a- short memory".... Midnight Oil- Short memory


Bush lied while 1000's of inocents died and contiune to. If you watch any documentary's there are plenty out now by service men who grew up so patriotic and headed the call when needed. What an eye opener when they and thier familes figured out it was all based on LIES!! We are now the most hated county in the world. (we weren't doing so great for decades) but now we have the title.

BTW- not one of the pilots were Iraqi's- they were all ARABS! Bush is freinds with the Royal Saudi Family.. Hmmmm.

While in Afganistan, Al Quida trains using weapons that we supplied them in the first place! Oh and weren't we going after Bin-Laden??? We didn't give a flying phuck while Saddam commited genocide on his own people? Why, cause we still needed him and were in bed with him.. Now your gonna tell me he's the axcess <sp> of evil? And Iraq is a better place?? Naw! We tore the place up good, KNOWING there were no WOMD! Bush was the first president in history to blow off the UN and run rampant over our constitution- just like the dangerous cowboy he is!!

We are now guilty of torture. Thats TRUTH! My father who faught in WW2- his spirt must be in tears!! I know his daughter is!!
 

kayjay70

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Ya know, we all have our opinions and some of you would like us all to believe that President Bush was the only one to order military strikes but if you read this http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/ from 1998... you will see that Clinton presided and agreed that Saddam needed to be taken out for his weapons of mass destruction.



As far as Calizz saying:
"We are now guilty of torture. Thats TRUTH! My father who faught in WW2- his spirt must be in tears!! I know his daughter is!!"

<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->I think she is wearing rose colored glasses only when she feels like it. If we had the instant access to everything during WWII as we do now, I guarantee you that torture would have been unveiled as it has ALWAYS played a part of war (US or any country), in the effort to SAVE the service men who are captured by the enemy and try to get them back by whatever means." I don't condone torture by any means but the enemy is not going to give up their secrets by threatenening to leave the jello out of their next meal! Your father's spirit may be in tears but NOT because of this. Only Ostriches bury their heads in the sand...


Oh....by the way...if you all hate Bush so much, and so totally against what he does... are you going to return the
stimulus check that you have or will receive? I'd hate for you to be spending "blood" money...from a torturer and a thief!

:eek:
 

Seaman63

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I'm really confused by your comments on being a thief, torturer and war criminal...so I won't even go there.

Forgive me kayjay..but I have to go there. It is a known fact that even children were tortured at the Abu Ghraib prison. Torture is a war crime. The convention of Geneva, which is signed by the US too, denies strictly any torture and execution of war prisoners. About the thief, in my opinion the entire war in Iraq is only to steal their oil ressources.

I´m absolutely serious about all I said about Bush. As you know I´m German and we had all that chit here fom 1933-1945. Our nation was reigned by the antichrist too...and we still have to suffer from what he did. From my point of view, there´s a lot accommodation between Hitler and Bush:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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Hitler claimed for himself to be instated by god.<o:p></o:p>
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Hitler´s campaign against the jewish, which ended with the holocaust, was officially started for religious and racialist reasons...and was nothing else like the biggest robbery ever.<o:p></o:p>
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Also he pushed the fear of people to a level, that most people thought there is no other way than to attack many other nations to protect themselves.<o:p></o:p>
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Elections were manipulated at that time.<o:p></o:p>
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He put media under complete control, so there was no other opinion possible as his own.<o:p></o:p>
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I have had many discussions with old people about that time and one of the most statements I´ve heard was: “we did not know about”<o:p></o:p>
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My intention is not to offend Americans, I like your nation and I have learned to know so many nice Americans. I´m thankful you freed Europe from the evil...but I´m afraid what happens right now in US.<o:p></o:p>
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Do you really want to tell your children and grandchildren: “we did not know about” ???<o:p></o:p>
 

CALizzz

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Ya know, we all have our opinions and some of you would like us all to believe that President Bush was the only one to order military strikes but if you read this http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/ from 1998... you will see that Clinton presided and agreed that Saddam needed to be taken out for his weapons of mass destruction.



As far as Calizz saying:
"We are now guilty of torture. Thats TRUTH! My father who faught in WW2- his spirt must be in tears!! I know his daughter is!!"

<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->I think she is wearing rose colored glasses only when she feels like it. If we had the instant access to everything during WWII as we do now, I guarantee you that torture would have been unveiled as it has ALWAYS played a part of war (US or any country), in the effort to SAVE the service men who are captured by the enemy and try to get them back by whatever means." I don't condone torture by any means but the enemy is not going to give up their secrets by threatenening to leave the jello out of their next meal! Your father's spirit may be in tears but NOT because of this. Only Ostriches bury their heads in the sand...


Oh....by the way...if you all hate Bush so much, and so totally against what he does... are you going to return the
stimulus check that you have or will receive? I'd hate for you to be spending "blood" money...from a torturer and a thief!

:eek:

Well, if you get your news from CNN that speaks volumes!! As far as if we had the means of torture back then we would have used it?? Really? Waterboarding (which simulates drowning) oh the list goes on and most are far worse. Just because you have a different color skin or a name that may sound susspicious? Hey Kayjay- you like having your phone tapped in the name of homeland security? And all of the other civil liberties that are taken away daily???

How dare you insinuate that my Father or myself bury our heads. Do you live in the bible belt by any chance??

When the president was questioned about letting the demacratic process run it's course- and waiting for the inspectors and our issues- his response was ... after his famous stuttering- that "well, democracy takes too long!" And I'm well aware of Bill Clintons actions. But this admin. is a disgrace!

As far as receving a check- I owe the government this time around, so I won't be recieveing any check.

I don't know how much you really know about politics, especially if your news source is CNN... Bush doesn't read the newspaper, GOD talks to him! Does God talk to you?? See, I'm open minded enough to have checked out ALL DIFFERENT religions. After growing up Catholic- I'm Agnostic- you may have to look that one up!

BTW- I don't wear glasses! Rose colored or otherwise. More like I wish I didn't know soo much, cause it makes me real sad and disgusted.

Get your facts straight before you post to me again. I don't know you and vice versa.. Thank goodness for that! Oh forgive me, It's hard to have a conversation when you approach me with a attack post! Or a battle of wits with someone who has no ammo!

Stand for something or fall for anything!!!
 

moslowjj

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"Quote" Oh....by the way...if you all hate Bush so much, and so totally against what he does... are you going to return the
stimulus check that you have or will receive? I'd hate for you to be spending "blood" money...from a torturer and a thief!


This ? is not worth answering... But are you freakin crazy He is only returning money that we should never have had to pay in the first place!!!!!


 
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lucky639

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Ok, I think this should be the end of this topic. Everyone has said their peace and I don't believe anything else should or needs to be addressed on this matter.
Streakers, it's hard sometimes when we all share different views on the same thing. With that in mind, please try not to be insulting towards each other in any manner. We have enough of that in the real world and we certainly do not want that here at the Streak! We all have to respect one another here regardless of our indifferences.

:eek:
 

CALizzz

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I'm really wondering who Kayjay is?? Someone with such few posts, to come at me?? Must know me. I could be wrong, but I NEVER hide behind names.

We were all stating points of view, until this member took it to a personal level- I'm not impressed!
 

kayjay70

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Wow, you sure got a ton more out of my reply than I actually wrote! lol

I'm sorry lizz. You originally put your comments out there to be accepted or not and I responded to them. I don't agree with you, no matter where you have gathered your opinions.


NO, I didn't insult your father (reread my reply please).
No, I'm not any peticular religion, and no to CNN. geesh....

This thread has gone in too many directions guys. sorry. I'm done. Over and out. LOL
 

CALizzz

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Well, I disagree that the thread has gone in too many directions- and maybe you should re-read your post to me..

I'm done. Over and out. PROMISE??
 

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Thank goodness we live in a country that we are free to express our opinions! Let's agree to disagree. Politics, religion and sex are topics that people will debate till the end of time. With so many horrible things going on in this world, lets not waste the precious little time we have on earth arguing about things we will never all see eye to eye about!

This forum is about friends getting together and enjoying themselves. Escaping from reality if only for a few minutes or hours once in a while. I believe each of you has a right to your own opinion and hopefully you will all respect each other enough to leave it at that!

We appreciate each and every one of you and we are so glad you choose to spend your valuable time here with us!!!! :eek:
 

redfawn

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Oh crap! I'm sorry i posted what i did. I didn't mean to start a war here. Sorry friends.:butterfly
 

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